Messages in Henry VI, Part 3, Act 5, Scene 5

I recently watched a video on the Nobody Oxfordian YouTube channel and it prompted me to investigate Henry VI, Part 3, Act 5, Scene 5, page 170 of the Histories, Shakespeare's First Folio (1623). The video is titled "Catalogue of Honor 1740 Oxford Shakespeare Part I" and can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFiGj1L-DRQ&t=1611s. The part that prompted me to examine page 170 of the Histories starts at the 23:17 time mark of the video.

After watching the video, I decided to use a 3-4-5 right triangle to examine Henry VI, Part 3, Act 5, Scene 5, page 170-171of the Histories. The 3-4-5 right triangle is a important concept and symbol of the Freemasons. As my previous posts show, the Brotherhood of the Rose Cross and Freemasons seem to have been involved in the production of Shakespeare's First Folio, so it seems appropriate to use the 3-4-5 right triangle to discover things in the book. Also, I have had some success using the 3-4-5 right triangle in the past, which can be seen in some of my previous blog posts.

All I have done is to scale the 3-4-5 triangle to make it bigger or smaller, and I have rotated and flipped it around to make the vertexes of the triangle touch significant words.

Now on to the examination! I encourage the reader to watch the "Catalogue of Honor 1740 Oxford Shakespeare Part I" (see link above), especially the part about Henry VI, Part 3, Act 5, Scene 5 that begins at the 23:17 time mark of the video. This post will make more sense after watching the video.

Image 1:

 

The 3-4-5 right triangle exactly points out three instances of "Oxford." The exactness of the alignment seems unusual.

Image 2:

In Image 2, the 3-4-5 right triangle is re-positioned to align "Edward...Oxford" with appearance of the word "Oxford" at the 45th line from the top of the page (or the 22nd line from the bottom of the page, and 22 = Twice 11, as in the Twice 11 Brethren (see video)), in "sweet Oxford thanks." The vertex of the 90 degree angle points to the line cue "Prince." The point of the vertex actually falls on the "Me" in "Methinks," which could be further clues alluding to Edward de Vere's actual status as a hidden Tudor prince.


Image 3:

In Image 3, the triangle points out "Prince Edward" (alluding to Edward de Vere being a hidden prince). ("Edward" refers to Edward Plantagenet, Earle of March, later King Edward IV, and "Prince" refers to Edward, Prince of Wales.) The vertex of the 90 degree angle points to the message "Untutor'd lad" (i.e., un-Tudored lad -- meaning Edward de Vere was denied recognition as a Tudor Prince).

Image 4:

The message in Image 4 refers to Thomas Seymour, Edward de Vere's real father. The use of the word “Grandfather” is problematic because Thomas Seymour was Oxford’s father, not his grandfather, but the word “grand” could be being used in the sense of "sweeping in ambition; noble." Also note that the word grandfather the words "perpetual shame" appear. Thomas Seymour was executed for high treason to his perpetual shame. The word children appears nearby, so the "perpetual shame" could also be referring to the shame falling on Thomas Seymour's children. In addition, near the word "Sea" (C) the word "Rocke" (R) appears, this may be a reference to the Rose Cross Brotherhood (the R.C.), and the word "Deceit" appears. Perhaps this refers to the brotherhood covering up Edward de Vere's true identity?

Image 5:

Image 5 shows another alignment of the words "Sea" and "More" (Seymour). The 90 degree vertex of the circle points to the words "the Brothers," which refers to Thomas Seymour (1st Baron Seymour of Sudeley, and Lord High Admiral) and Edward Seymour (1st Duke of Somerset, Lord Protector). The lines are "That there's no hop'd-for Mercy with the Brothers. / More then with ruthless Waves, Sand and Rocks." These words are an apt description of the toxic relationship of the two brothers, and may also refer to Edward Seymour issuing the death sentence of his own brother.

Image 6:

The title "God of the Sea" and "Neptune" are used to refer to Thomas Seymour. Thomas Seymour was Lord High Admiral of England, so the use of the title seems to refer to this office. The title "God of the Sea" and "Neptune" also seems to function as a title of office in the Brotherhood of the Rose Cross and is sometimes used to refer to Edward de Vere and Francis Bacon.

In Image 6, the 3-4-5 right triangle points out the words "Gods Name," "Sea," and "Grandfather" (in this case the vertex points to the word "father" in "Grandfather"). Therefore, this message seems to be that Edward de Vere's father held the title "God of the Sea."

As I have discussed previously, the word "Grandfather" is problematic as a reference to Thomas Seymour because he was Edward de Vere's real father, and not his grandfather. It is explained that the word "grand" may be used in the sense of "sweeping in ambition; noble" rather than to refer to an ancestor. The fact that the vertex points to the "father" portion of "Grandfather" may also be intended to focus attention only on this portion of the word.

Image 7:

Image 7 shows another "King of the Sea" message and a reference to "see-more" (Seymour). The caption at the top of the image provides further explanation.


That is all for now.

Continued--Rosicrucian and Masonic Messages in Henry IV, Part I

This post is a continuation of my last post.

In this post, I will show some additional Rosicrucian/Masonic messages, or oddities, on pages 52 and 53 of the Histories, Henry IV, Part I, in Shakespeare's First Folio (1623).

The first image shows a line drawn along the hypotenuse of the 3-4-5 right triangle that marks out the "rose crosse" message on page 53 of Henry IV, Part I.  When the line is extended to page 52, it crosses the word "Rose" in at the top of the 3-4-5 right triangle that highlights the "Rose crosse" message on page 52.  

I am unsure what other significance there may be as to how the line falls across pages 52 and 53, other than the fact that it crosses the word "Rose" on page 52, and where it starts and ends.

The next hidden message I will discuss involves an interpretation of two sections of text in Henry IV, Part I, that I believe are related for the purpose of revealing a hidden message.

The first section of text is in the left-hand column on page 52 of the Histories, Henry IV, Part I. Part of the text falls within the “Rose crosse” and “shooke Spear” messages, which were shown in my last post. In the following lines, Thomas Percy, Earl of Worcester, begins to try to reveal a plan to Henry Percy, nicknamed “Hotspur.” However, Hotspur immediately becomes carried away with ideas and interrupts.

     Wor. Peace Cousin, say no more.

And now I will vnclaspe a Secret booke,

And to your quicke conceyuing Discontents,

Ile reade you Matter, deepe and dangerous,

As to o're-walke a Current, roaring loud

On the vnstedfast footing of a Speare.

     Hot. If he fall in, good night, or sinke or swimme:

Send danger from the East vnto the West,

So Honor crosse it from the North to South,

And let them grapple: The blood more stirres

To rowze a Lyon, then to start a Hare.

     Nor. Imagination of some great exploit,

Driues him beyond the bounds of Patience.

     Hot. By heauen, me thinkes it were an easie leap,

To plucke bright Honor from the pale-fac'd Moone,

Or diue into the bottome of the deepe,

Where Fadome-line could neuer touch the ground,

And plucke vp drowned Honor by the Lockes:

So he that doth redeeme her thence, might weare

Without Co-riuall, all her Dignities:

But out vpon this halfe-fac'd Fellowship.

     Wor. He apprehends a World of Figures here,

But not the forme of what he should attend:

Good Cousin giue me audience for a-while,

And list to me.

I believe that the following lines from the left-hand column of page 61 of the Histories, Henry IV, Part I, are related to the text shown above. These lines appear after Hotspur, Glendower, Mortimer, and Worcester have agreed to a future tripartite division of land between themselves. Hotspur’s share of the division is land north of the river Trent. In the following lines, Hotspur proposes altering the winding west to east course of the river so that he has a greater share of land.

 

     Hotsp. Me thinks my Moity, North from Burton here,

In quantitie equals not one of yours:

See, how this Riuer comes me cranking in,

And cuts me from the best of all my Land,

A huge halfe Moone, a monstrous Cantle out.

Ile haue the Currant in this place damn'd vp,

And here the smug and Siluer Trent shall runne,

In a new Channell, faire and euenly:

It shall not winde with such a deepe indent,

To rob me of so rich a Bottome here.

     Glend. Not winde? it shall, it must, you see it doth.

     Mort. Yea, but marke how he beares his course,

And runnes me vp, with like aduantage on the other side,

Gelding the opposed Continent as much,

As on the other side it takes from you.

     Worc. Yea, but a little Charge will trench him here,

And on this North side winne this Cape of Land,

And then he runnes straight and euen.

     Hotsp. Ile haue it so, a little Charge will doe it.

     Glend. Ile not haue it alter'd.

     Hotsp. Will not you?

     Glend. No, nor you shall not.

     Hotsp. Who shall say me nay?

     Glend. Why, that will I.

     Hotsp. Let me not vnderstand you then, speake it in

Welsh.

     Glend. I can speake English, Lord, as well as you:

For I was trayn'd vp in the English Court;

Where, being but young, I framed to the Harpe

Many an English Dittie, louely well,

And gaue the Tongue a helpefull Ornament;

A Vertue that was neuer seene in you.

     Hotsp. Marry, and I am glad of it with all my heart,

I had rather be a Kitten, and cry mew,

Then one of these same Meeter Ballad-mongers:

I had rather heare a Brazen Candlestick turn'd,

Or a dry Wheele grate on the Axle-tree,

And that would set my teeth nothing an edge,

Nothing so much, as mincing Poetrie;

'Tis like the forc't gate of a shuffling Nagge.

     Glend. Come, you shall haue Trent turn'd.

     Hotsp. I doe not care: Ile giue thrice so much Land

To any well-deseruing friend;

But in the way of Bargaine, marke ye me,

Ile cauill on the ninth part of a hayre.

Are the Indentures drawne? shall we be gone?

In each excerpt shown above, words common to both are shown highlighted in red. In addition, two words – hare and hair (hayre) – that are homophones are shown. It is quite commonplace for words and images to be repeatedly used to form themes.

Now to unravel the text. Worcester begins by stating that he wants to reveal or “unclasp,” a plan that he refers to as “secret book.” He states that the plan is as “deep and dangerous” as crossing a roaring current of water on the unsteady footing of a spear. Hotspur then interrupts and says, “Send danger from the East unto the West, / So Honor crosse it from the North to South, / And let them grapple…”

In the second section of text from page 61 of Henry IV, Part I, Hotspur reveals his plan to alter the course of the River Trent, by making it run “fair and evenly,” so that he gains more land north of the river.[1]

As I have stated, I believe the two sections of text shown above are related. The River Trent is known for dramatic flooding after storms and spring snowmelt. Thus, the Trent fits the allusion to a “deep and dangerous” roaring current of water. The Trent is also the historic boundary between northern and southern England. Therefore, the Trent is a major river that flows west to east and forms a north-south border, which fits the lines “Send danger from the East vnto the West.” The lines which follow, “So Honor crosse it from the North to South, / And let them grapple…” is the key to the message.

The word “Honor,” with its capital H, is portrayed as crossing the word Trent, with its capital T. In other words, the capital T and the H are meant to cross, or "grapple" with, each another. The letters T and H are associated with Tyre and Hiram Abif, and Templum Hierosolym, and the Triple Tau. Furthermore, Alexander Waugh has shown that the Triple Tau and the number 1740 are associated with Edward de Vere, 17th Earl of Oxford. If the capital R from River Trent is added to the Triple Tau, the message is --

 

In addition, I have no doubt that Francis Bacon was involved in all this too.

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[1] This section of the play is believed to refer to a quarrel that took place in 1592 between Sir Thomas Stanhope and Gilbert Talbot, 17^th Earl of Shrewsbury, over the course of the two Trent River channels at Shelford (in the Burton Joyce and Shelford part of the river).  In the 1590’s the Trent ran in two channels at Shelford and Stanhope had erected a weir in the northern channel to create a dam to provide power for his corn mills.  The locks created on the river are apparently the oldest known on the Trent.  Shrewsbury won the dispute and decided to “finish off Stanhope and his weir in a carefully planned commando operation just before Easter 1593”-- 

 

“Twelve of Shrewsbury’s henchmen erected on his own ground at one end of the weir a prefabricated ‘timber house in manner of a fort’, which they manned and equipped with armour and weapons so as to cover the building of a trench 60 yards long to divert the Trent and render the weir useless.”

 

https://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1558-1603/member/stanhope-sir-thomas-1540-96; see also http://www.bobrobertsonline.co.uk/the-ultimate-trent-guide/

 

Rosicrucian and Masonic Messages in Henry IV, Part I

In this post I will show what appear to be Rosicrucian and Masonic messages on pages 52 and 53 of the Histories, Henry IV, Part I, in Shakespeare's First Folio (1623).

 

The reason I am examining these pages is that I saw some images of page 53 on the Internet.  The images showed a "rose crosse" message that I believe was found by Petter Amundsen.  I will just show a portion of his solution here:

As can be seen, the words "rose crosse" fall on two points on a 3-4-5 right triangle.  3-4-5 right triangle is a symbol used in Freemasonry.  

As noted above, I am focusing only a portion of what Mr. Amundsen found due to its significance to what I subsequently discovered (see below).  However, based on what he found, I decided to examine both pages 52 and 53 of the Histories, Henry IV, Part I.  The remainder of this post is my work.  To the best of my knowledge, this is new material that has not been noticed or discussed elsewhere.

The next images show some cipher (gematria) solutions to the "rose crosse" message on page 53.

 

The gematria indicates several solutions pointing to the number 33.  The number 33 is associated with the name "BACON," and Francis Bacon. 1st Viscount St Alban.

The next images show another "Rose crosse" message on page 52 of Henry IV, Part I, that I discovered.

 

Again, the words "Rose" and "crosse" fall within the bounds of a 3-4-5 right triangle.  When the base (side length 3) of the triangle is made to equal the length of the line "So Honor crosse it from North to South," the upper point of the triangle points out the word "Rose."  Therefore, an obvious "Rose Crosse" message is indicated.

 

It is also noteworthy that the word "Rose" falls on the 22nd line from the top of the page, and the word "crosse" falls on the 44th line from the top of the page, such that the message spans 22 lines.  This is consistent with John Anthony's hypothesis that the members of the group who placed messages in the King James version of the bible were known as the "Twice Eleven Brethren." See https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxWpJNxTcvuxd6JcPTD6fuw

The next images show a possible "Shake-speare" message (actually "shooke Speare").

There may be significance in the fact that the word "shooke" appears on the fourth line from the top of the "Rose crosse" message and the word "Speare" appears on the fourth line from the bottom of the message.  In addition, the "shooke Speare" message spans 17 lines.  Therefore, the message "shooke Speare" is associated with both the number 17 (Edward de Vere's earl number) and the concept of "fourth" (or the "Fourth T, or 40).  As Alexander Waugh has shown, the number 1740 is associated with Edward de Vere, 17th Earl of Oxford.  See https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHN7SCKlsa9lPYJmqqQ2uIg

The final image shows a circle of drawn from the word "So" at the beginning of the line  "So Honor crosse it from North to South." This circle also falls on one of the points of the 3-4-5 right triangle.  I call a circle of this radius the "marke vpon him...two courses off" circle.  I have discussed why I used this circle in numerous previous posts.

As can be seen, the circumference of the circle crosses the word "Rose" on the 22nd line of the page.  Therefore, as it so happens, the radius of the circle ("marke vpon him...two courses off" circle) exactly matches the hypotenuse of the 3-4-5 right triangle that marks out the "Rose crosse" message.  

In the margins of the image, I set out my interpretation of some of the words that fall near portions of the circumference of the circle.  I posit that there are messages concerning Edward de Vere as the Triple Tau and that lead to the number he is associated with: 1740.  I also discuss possible references to York Rite Masonry, Royal Arch Masonry, and the Triple Tau (The Grand Emblem of Royal Arch Masonry).  If the "Y" in "York" represents a thorn (the letters "TH"), then the words "York Rite" may, again, encode the idea of R being equal to 17 and the Triple Tau (1740 and Edward de Vere).  Therefore I believe the messages in the First Folio are directly linked to the Rosicrucians and the Freemasons.

That is all for now.

 

 Rose Cross and 1740 Message on Page 149 of the Comedies, A Midsummer Night's Dream

In this post, I will show a "Rose Cross" message on page 149 of the Comedies, A Midsummer Night's Dream, in Shakespeare's First Folio (1623).

In this post, I will be drawing circles of three different diameters on page 149.  I discovered these circles, or compass settings, on page one of The Tempest.  If you want to know more about how I found these compass settings, please read these posts, especially the first one:

https://hiddenmessagesinshakespeare.blogspot.com/2014/10/post-2-part-1-king-of-sea-messages.html

https://hiddenmessagesinshakespeare.blogspot.com/2020/08/why-miranda-is-hidden-mermaid-part-ii.html

Just to show that I have "nothing up my sleeve," as magicians like to say, here is an image showing the circles drawn on page one of The Tempest:

Unfortunately, page one of The Tempest of The Bodleian First Folio is damaged.  If you want to see a complete page 1, the links provided above have other copies.  The reason I am using The Bodleian First Folio for this post it that its image of page 149 of the Comedies is better that images from other online copies of the First Folio. 

I only use circles of the three diameters shown in the image.  For my posts, I typically use only use the circle shown red, but I sometimes have used the smallest circle, shown in purple.  I have used the largest circle, shown in blue, on only a few occasions.  For this post I will be using all three circles.  I do not use circles of any other diameter (I tried to do this in my first book, but I have not done so since).  I have been sticking with these circles to maintain consistency in my method.  Therefore, I cannot be accused of  drawing circles of any arbitrary size to find things.

In addition to the circles, I will also be using a 3-4-5 right triangle.  This triangle is part of Masonic lore.  In addition, Pythagoras (Pythagorean theorem) is mentioned at least four times in the First Folio.  

In this post, I am starting with lines spoken by Titania and Oberon, the fairy Queen and King, at the top left-hand column of page 149.  I will be focusing on the area of the lines with the words "Rose" and "crosse":   

The nine mens Morris is fild vp with mud,

And the queint Mazes in the wanton greene,

For lacke of tread are vndistinguishable.

The humane mortals want their winter heere,

No night is now with hymne or caroll blest;

Therefore the Moone (the gouernesse of floods)

Pale in her anger, washes all the aire;

That Rheumaticke diseases doe abound.

And through this distemperature, we see

The seasons alter; hoared headed frosts

Fall in the fresh lap of the crimson Rose,

And on old Hyems chinne and Icie crowne,

An odorous Chaplet of sweet Sommer buds

Is as in mockry set. The Spring, the Sommer,

The childing Autumne, angry Winter change

Their wonted Liueries, and the mazed world,

By their increase, now knowes not which is which;

And this same progeny of euills,

Comes from our debate, from our dissention,

We are their parents and originall.

   Ober. Do you amend it then, it lies in you,

Why should Titania crosse her Oberon?

I do but beg a little changeling boy,

To be my Henchman.

The next image shows a 3-4-5 right triangle on the page with the side that is 3 units long placed below, and of equivalent length to, the words "Titania crosse her Oberon":

As can be seen, at the top of the triangle, at the point where it crosses the word "Rose," letters that spell "crosse" cross through the word "Rose."  

At the base of the triangle, I placed the letter "T" and the letter "O" together to create an ankh, or key of life, symbol.  I am not sure if this is warranted, but the Rosicrucians do use an ankh as a symbol.

There is also a letter alignment that spells "Tudor" 

(with a bit of letter unscrambling) moving upward along the hypotenuse of the triangle from the letter "T" in "Titania."  There are also letters further up the hypotenuse that can be slightly rearranged to construct "king edward," and this message may be present: "Tudor] parents debate [?] [Tudor] progeny [and] king edward [VI] angry."  The "Tudor" parents debate is difficult to resolve, but it could be a reference to Edward Seymour, Lord Protector, Catherine Parr (when she was alive), and other people acting as guardians of the Tudor children.  These messages would be describing an internal debate and reactions within the regime concerning Elizabeth becoming pregnant with Thomas Seymour's child (see below).

In the image above, two small circles are drawn, one is centered on the "T" in "Titania" and the other is centered on the "O" in "Oberon."  The circles are also shown in the image of page 1 of The Tempest (above).  I call this the "marke vpon him" compass setting.

As can be seen, the circumferences of the circles intersect at the top at the line "fall in the fresh lap of the crimson Rose."  This is also the line that was pointed-out by the 3-4-5 triangle.  At the bottom, the circles intersect at the line "And grow big bellied with the wanton winde."  This line is about the image of sails filling with wind, but it also alludes to a pregnant woman growing big with child.  The three lines that follow make the connection even more clearly.  I believe these lines are veiled suggestions of Queen Elizabeth (then a princess) becoming pregnant by Thomas Seymour, 1st Baron Seymour of Sudeley, Lord High Admiral.

The right-hand circle also falls on a "BACon" along the left-hand side of left-hand column.  I is not highlighted in the image, but it looks like this:

B

An

Co

This might indicate Francis Bacon's involvement in these messages.  There may be a message along the circumference, going upward from the "BACon,"  which may be something to the effect of "[Edward de Vere and Francis] Bacon are the 'parents' of the 'mockery' and 'childing' about [Thomas] 'Seymour' [in the hidden messages]."  A possible "Seymour" letter alignment can be seen at the words "mockery," "odorous,"  "Chaplet," and "Hyems" that might spell "C-mour" or "seymour." 

What is most noteworthy is that a portion of the circle on the right marks out letters that spell "elisa (and son) beth."  This letter alignment symbolizes Princess Elizabeth pregnant with a son.  This message is consistent with what is described by Titania in the scene -- a "Votress of my Order" pregnant with child.

In the image above, a circle, in red, centered on the "R" in "Rose" and a circle, in blue, centered on the word "crosse" are placed on the image.  The red circle is what I refer to as the "marke vpon him...two courses off" circle, and the blue circle what I refer to as the "marke vpon him...three courses off" circle.  Both circles are shown in the image of page 1 of The Tempest (see above).

As can be seen, the circumferences of the circles intersect at the word "forty" in the right-hand column.  The letter "R" has a simple gematria value of 17  (Elizabethan alphabet).  Combining the number 17 with the number 40 creates the number 1740.  Mr. Alexander Waugh has linked this number with Edward de Vere, 17th Earl of Oxford, and the "Fourth T" (the hidden fourth T in the triple tau cross).

Near the lower part of the circle the circumference touches the line "Since once I sat upon a promontory."  This line is the beginning of Oberon's story of the mermaid riding on a dolphins back singing to calm the sea.  I discussed this story and the hidden messages about Thomas Seymour contained in it in my last post.

Considering all of what has been shown, Edward de Vere, known as "1740" (the Fourth T) is being linked to the Brotherhood of the Rose Cross and possibly the secret pregnancy of Queen Elizabeth by Thomas Seymour, suggesting Edward de Vere was her illegitimate son -- a hidden changeling boy, just as mentioned in the play on page 149.

That is all for now.